In While Sure, I could dual boot OS 9 and Edit: Typo. Last edited: Oct 8, Nixontheknight Well-known member. Yup hardware support definitely helps drive legacy software being phased out. Add that and Apple's leave the past behind approach I still remember when the iMac came out what a scandal it was that it had no floppy disk drive and I think we were fortunate to even had it supported through Tiger.
Cory Daring Pioneer of the Future Staff member. Software support and patches for To get it running you'd need to figure out what it relies on from It would most likely not work and break your I suspect that nobody's really put a lot of time into it because to be honest many people whether or not this is "right" is a different issue view Tiger as performing better than Leopard on most extant PowerPC hardware and completely correctly view Intel Macs as a better place to run Leopard.
I don't think the hardware question is part of this. Classic Mode works in Not that somebody shouldn't, just that I think there's lots of good reasons why nobody has, but, IDK, maybe there's been inroads somewhere that I haven't noticed. Cory said:. Click to expand Gorgonops Moderator Staff member. Sorry for the momentary veer off-topic, but would you mind elaborating on this? Is OS 9 just more unstable on these or it more of a speed thing?
Gorgonops said:. If it was as easy as dragging over a few libraries someone would have released it by now. My apologies for the delay. Gorgonops is spot on here - I'm exaggerating a little for dramatic effect. They're not known to be unstable relative to older machines. MDDs may have graphics cards that do not have OS 9 drivers installed but this is also a potential problem with earlier Macs.
This is also true of many earlier systems. OS 9 makes poor use of all dual-CPU Macs and it makes poor use of networking and storage hardware on all hardware it runs on. In my 9-era day-to-day it's nearly indistinguishable on all of them.
I think you can measure or benchmark the difference, but not feel it. Again, surprises await us as we change platforms. Running these tests on a Mac Pro, Basilisk begins to shine, weighing in at The reasons for this become clear when you realize that SheepShaver is performing double translation: It is running a 68K emulator on a G4 emulator on an Intel machine, whilst Basilisk can go directly from 68K to Intel.
But this is not the surprising piece. In other words, Intel Mac users interested in performance are better off finding 68K versions of their software to run on Basilisk than to use PowerPC versions on SheepShaver. For example, Microsoft Office 4. It emulates a G4 processor minus the MMU. Unlike what you might have heard, all of the items needed to run SheepShaver are freely and legally downloadable.
You are not required to buy an old Macintosh and run some obscure ROM-reading application to use it. There are, however, three separate pieces to the puzzle that you will need to assemble to get SheepShaver operating. The first piece is the SheepShaver software itself, which can be downloaded from its web site. The second piece needed is a compatible Macintosh ROM file. Unfortunately, not all such files are compatible with SheepShaver.
However, one simple way to acquire a compatible ROM file is to obtain it directly from Apple. There are three free Macintosh updaters, each containing a SheepShaver-compatible ROM file, which may be downloaded from these locations:.
These links download installers containing packages called tome files. The Classic application TomeViewer can easily extract it. The third and final piece needed to run SheepShaver is the system software itself. Depending on the ROMs used, you can go as far back as System 7. The choice of System 7.
Beginning with System 7. Users lacking access to any version of a Macintosh OS can at least be able to download this version. System 7. This is not likely to be a major inconvenience, as most people interested in using SheepShaver are long-time Classic users who probably have access to a later version of the system software anyway. The was presumably chosen as it was one of the last Macintosh computers produced by Apple which could boot in System 7.
Once you have all three parts, we are ready to begin. Why these are two separate applications instead of one is beyond me. This is certainly a poor Macintosh User Experience the first of many , as typical Macintosh applications simply provide a Preferences menu to adjust these settings. This ugly window is where you add your volumes that the emulated Mac sees.
We begin by creating a blank hard drive. Click on the Create Just when you thought that the windows couldn't look any uglier, this God-awful dialog appears. The decoupling of folders on the left and files on the right is rather bizarre, something only a Unix geek could love. Navigate to the location where you want to create this hard drive. Unfortunately, the default is root, not something more reasonable like the SheepShaver folder.
In case you are wondering,. Don't ask, it's Unix. The default size is set to 40MB, but for a Mac OS 9 installation, you will need to make it much larger. I recommend making it about MB. If you have a Mac OS 9 image file, perform the same file-picking contortions to point to it no, this file picker does not remember where you were previously, so you always start at root.
Some CD's will boot but fail to install because they were intended for installing on specific Macs and not accept as valid the Power Mac the hardware SheepShaver is emulating.
These are all frustrating problems that you may encounter, and it may require some tinkering. If you run into difficulties, email me and I may be able to help.
Your dialog should now look something like this:. This dialog should look like this:. There are other settings available to adjust as well. I prefer my emulated screen resolution to be x , but you may adjust this and other settings to your liking. Once you have finished, press the Start button. If you are running on a PowerPC-based Macintosh, you may see the following scary message:.
Just press the Close button and ignore it. This false crash message is just one more of the ending bugs found in SheepShaver. Intel-based Macs do not seem to have this bug. Assuming all went well, the emulated Mac will boot up and you will be asked to erase your newly created hard drive:. Go ahead and initialize, and then run your Mac OS 9 installer. Once you are finished, your desktop may look like this. Once you are done, your desktop will look something like this:. Basilisk emulates a x0-based Macintosh; either a Mac IIci or a Quadra , depending on whether you wish to use System 7.
Its processor choices range from to The part is easy, as the Basilisk software can be downloaded from its web site. The ROMs, however, are a bit trickier. An excellent tutorial on this procedure is available. However, a number of people have already done this and put these ROM files on the internet.
Although I do not endorse or condone the distributing of copyrighted ROM files, it is likely that Apple has greater concerns than these year-old ROM files being posted. A Mac Plus, for example, could use System 3. Despite what the documentation claims, I have not had much success emulating a Mac Plus, or anything below a based Mac.
As noted in the SheepShaver installation section, System 7. The Emaculation web site, a site devoted to Macintosh emulation issues, has a pre-configured System 7. My recommendation is to begin with this starter disk to install the operating system onto your hard drive file. Once that is completed, than you can insert a Mac OS 8. If you have been following along with the SheepShaver installation procedure, you will see that Basilisk behaves nearly identically.
We create a hard drive file large enough for Mac OS 8. If your Mac OS 8. We will also save time by including the System 7. We can now click on the Start button to boot up our emulated Mac.
You will no doubt notice how much faster Basilisk is in booting up than SheepShaver. Much of this has to do with the fact that System 7. You should now see this:. Initialize and install Mac OS 8. When you are finished, your window will look something like the following:. First, you go to its web site to download the application.
Without doing anything else, you can launch the application and get reasonable information of what needs to be done next;. ROM, and place into the same folder as the Mini vMac application.
This is essentially how a Mac Plus appears upon startup with no System software. Fortunately, Mini vMac offers a much better user experience than do SheepShaver and Basilisk , and so the next step is easier. Under the File menu, the Open Disk Image Hard drive files created within Basilisk can be used with Mini vMac , provided the boot system is no greater than System 7.
If we use Emaculation's starter disk image , we can get to a reasonable working position. You will also want to download some of the utilities available for Mini vMac , which will nicely enhance your experience. In addition, it is worth downloading the original vMac , as its bundle contains items useful for Mini vMac, such as a System 6 startup disk.
None of the options we have discussed is a truly suitable replacement for the Classic environment. If you use Classic applications continually and interactively, then your best bet is to stay with Mac OS X If your needs are much more modest and are willing to keep your expectations low, then perhaps one of these emulators may be acceptable to you.
Unfortunately, the performance of these emulators are inversely proportional to their usefulness. And PowerPC emulation performs best on exactly those machines least likely to be upgraded to Leopard: G4 systems. The obvious question is thus: Why do you still need to use Classic? Most Classic applications have native OS X equivalents available today, so if it is a matter of paying the upgrade fees, you will find this to be a preferable alternative to emulation.
If it is simply to run some older games or utilities which you have grown accustomed to, SheepShaver and Basilisk are your only solution. See you in 30! According to Hoyle Pulling the Wool Over Our Eyes Just because Apple ceased to support its Classic Environment implementation does not mean you have to delete your old apps just yet.
Baaaaaah Humbug Before proceeding, it is worth preparing you now for a disappointment. Mary Had a Little Classic Emulator. Privacy Policy. However, Mini vMac comes with a number of extra utilities. This dialog should look like this: There are other settings available to adjust as well. If you are running on a PowerPC-based Macintosh, you may see the following scary message: Just press the Close button and ignore it.
Assuming all went well, the emulated Mac will boot up and you will be asked to erase your newly created hard drive: Go ahead and initialize, and then run your Mac OS 9 installer. Once you are done, your desktop will look something like this: The Unix volume is the root level of your Startup volume. You should now see this: Initialize and install Mac OS 8. When you are finished, your window will look something like the following: At this point you are ready to use Basilisk.
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